Friday, August 27, 2010

Let's not set fire to our caterpillars...

In the study of psychology, there is a concept of change that comes in to discussion frequently. How can I become a different person? Though I have not been here long, I am curious whether this is a useful and helpful concept. My experience in life so far has shown me that while people may not change, they can develop. An acorn can’t be a corn kernel, but it can develop into an oak tree.
The difference between change and development is not purely semantic, but conceptual. The idea behind change is to mold something into that which it is not. The idea behind development is to allow a thing to unfold into all that it can be.
Alchemists are the people who have studied transformation most thoroughly throughout history. They, and the chemists who followed them, showed that we as human beings can effect certain changes in compounds. Chemical changes, meaning changes in basic molecular organization, which are reorganizations. However, no one has succeeded in changing lead into gold. This is because lead and gold are elements.
It’s not to say that there are not ways that the elements can be “changed” into other elements, but the forces at play here are cosmic forces. Stars are the transformers, which can actually rearrange the nuclei of elements, are no changes, just different levels of rearrangement. The more foundational the level of rearrangement that is required, the more cosmic the forces need to be.
You can chop wood with an ax (physical change with physical force), separate the molecules with fire into carbon dioxide and water vapor (chemical change with energetic force), even separate hydrogen and oxygen from water with electricity (again, chemical change with energetic force), but in order to turn that hydrogen into helium (foundational nuclear change) nuclear level forces are required, such as are present in the unfathomable gravity and temperature of our sun.
How can these ideas be applied to a living system such as a human being. Living systems, being self-organizing, differ from the dead wood in our previous example. A person would not want to be chopped with an ax, burned, electrocuted, or placed in the center of the sun (speaking metaphorically of course) and would be resistant to interventions along these orders on some level since they all threaten self-organization.
However, there is one way in which living systems can be said to change, and this is through growth and development. All living systems go through processes of development and growth, some of which are as dramatic as caterpillar to butterfly. However! The forces at play in this sort of transformation are not external. They are inherent responses to conditions (internal or external). Transformations in living systems can not be “caused” by external factors, but may include a response to these external circumstances. In any case, Innate forces and the unfolding of potentialities are more the “cause” of any “change” in a human being or other living system.
The only way this is not true is in the case of killing or damaging a living system, in which case an external force can cause “changes” on a living system in a direct, non-responsive kind of way. You can set fire to a caterpillar, but it will change into a butterfly only when it’s good and ready.

4 comments:

  1. I think you'd like to read this... kind of cool.
    http://chemistry.about.com/cs/generalchemistry/a/aa050601a.htm

    "Transmutation of lead into gold isn't just theoretically possible - it has been achieved! There are reports that Glenn Seaborg, 1951 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, succeeded in transmuting a minute quantity of lead (possibly en route from bismuth, in 1980) into gold."

    The part I like is about the "cost" to change being greater than the value of the gold it's self.

    I know a couple drink and with the so called "beer goggles" on can really change how people are perceived. in a matter of an hour or two a girl can be changed into a ten and not have to do a thing differently... LOL

    Change... in perception... how subjective... I like it!

    Thanks for sharing these thoughts... I'm really looking forward to more of the "Mindarrhea" here!

    Reminds me... Obie Trice drips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr6QpmcE__s

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  2. I have personally burned caterpillars prior to making changes to myself……one of my changes is that I no longer burn living creatures unless they are dead first. I feel like a different person since I made that change.

    It may be helpful to define the meaning of the words you choose, sometimes to limit the number of words.

    The interesting thing about diarrhea (frequent and copious discharge of abnormally liquid feces) is that it indeterminate in nature and therefore is really hard to tell where it comes from or what it is composed of.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/change
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/develop

    Living in ambiguity (doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention) will lead you into diarrhea.

    Is the real question? : Can a person change into a different person?

    The answer is NO, not without reorganizing our DNA which I believe has not been worked out yet.

    Is the real question? Can a person change?

    The answer is YES, as much as they want.

    The Law of Conservation of Energy (the principle that in a system that does not undergo any force from outside the system, the amount of energy is constant, irrespective of its changes in form.)

    This law states you can change every thing but energetically nothing changes.

    People can change themselves in two basic ways without the aid of external energy(lets pretend we don’t need to eat, drink or breath): Our emotional state and our physical posture.

    With external energy we can change these in such great amounts that the original person may no longer be recognizable. We can be fat, skinny, mindless, mindful, drugged into a stupor..etc.. I guarantee that if you have no internal potential for fatness you can become fat. The diarrhea in me would say that we have the potential for all things within us!

    A little diarrhea follows: I assure you that the caterpillar will change…how…when… and why….I want it to. It is only necessary to change the external energy(reality) within which the caterpillar exists in it’s reality. If the caterpillar suddenly notices that it is time to change who is to tell him he decided to do it on his own or it was decided for him? The caterpillar is not afraid. He changes when it is necessary for him to do so. His position is that he is a caterpillar, no more, no less. He doesn’t spend his time wondering if he wants to be a butterfly or not. He could care less! He just is what he is when he is where he is because he is.

    Just diarrhea……..just drama…….In my book caterpillars begin the process of death by turning into butterflies, not growth and development!

    In the end it is useful for people to change if the changes will lead them to being in a better mood. Mood modifies how we feel. If we are in a good mood we feel better. Apparently normal healthy humans want to feel good.

    Change/development/masturbation/avoidance/mysticism/verbal diarrhea

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  3. I have personally burned caterpillars prior to making changes to myself……one of my changes is that I no longer burn living creatures unless they are dead first. I feel like a different person since I made that change.

    It may be helpful to define the meaning of the words you choose, sometimes to limit the number of words.

    The interesting thing about diarrhea (frequent and copious discharge of abnormally liquid feces) is that it indeterminate in nature and therefore is really hard to tell where it comes from or what it is composed of.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/change
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/develop

    Living in ambiguity (doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention) will lead you into diarrhea.

    Is the real question? : Can a person change into a different person?

    The answer is NO, not without reorganizing our DNA which I believe has not been worked out yet.

    Is the real question? Can a person change?

    The answer is YES, as much as they want.

    The Law of Conservation of Energy (the principle that in a system that does not undergo any force from outside the system, the amount of energy is constant, irrespective of its changes in form.)

    This law states you can change every thing but energetically nothing changes.

    People can change themselves in two basic ways without the aid of external energy(lets pretend we don’t need to eat, drink or breath): Our emotional state and our physical posture.

    With external energy we can change these in such great amounts that the original person may no longer be recognizable. We can be fat, skinny, mindless, mindful, drugged into a stupor..etc.. I guarantee that if you have no internal potential for fatness you can become fat. The diarrhea in me would say that we have the potential for all things within us!

    A little diarrhea follows: I assure you that the caterpillar will change…how…when… and why….I want it to. It is only necessary to change the external energy(reality) within which the caterpillar exists in it’s reality. If the caterpillar suddenly notices that it is time to change who is to tell him he decided to do it on his own or it was decided for him? The caterpillar is not afraid. He changes when it is necessary for him to do so. His position is that he is a caterpillar, no more, no less. He doesn’t spend his time wondering if he wants to be a butterfly or not. He could care less! He just is what he is when he is where he is because he is.

    Just diarrhea……..just drama…….In my book caterpillars begin the process of death by turning into butterflies, not growth and development!

    In the end it is useful for people to change if the changes will lead them to being in a better mood. Mood modifies how we feel. If we are in a good mood we feel better. Apparently normal healthy humans want to feel good.

    Change/development/masturbation/avoidance/mysticism/verbal diarrhea

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  4. Thank you Guru6040, you make some very good points! Yes! People can change, absolutely.

    The types of change I'm interested in involve going towards more of a natural state. In terms of posture - doing less muscular work in order to find a more erect, more fluid structure. In terms of emotion - allowing more authentic experience to show up as opposed to painting the turd.

    A caterpillar begins the process of dying the moment it is born. It begins the process of living at the very same moment.

    You have said:
    "Can a person change? The answer is YES, as much as they want."

    I agree completely.

    Can an external individual make a person change?
    This is what I like the most about what you posted here. As you said, by effecting the external reality of the caterpillar, you can set up conditions to which it will respond. I'll have to think about this more, because it's a really interesting idea!

    Expect thoughts on that topic in an upcoming post.
    Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment :)

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